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Pashko Morgan
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Posted - 2014.08.06 18:11:00 -
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Our corp is living in c4 with c3 static. 2nd c4 static coupled with other changes mentioned in devblog leads for more headache and nothing more for our corp. Lets list all the stuff: 1. Logistics. Not a problem at all with current 1 static system. 3 months ago we had one day with our folks with a "4 jumps to Jita" exit from our c3 static. Every one made about 5 mammoth runs back and forth and collapsed the hole with orca's. I repeat it was ONE day for half a year amount of pos fuel, ammo, structures, backup pos, multiple modules and minerals. T3 and other stuff was brought to home system here and there because its not a problem at all.
With 2 statics we will face more possibilities to get a lucky "4 jumps to Jita" route as well as we'll need at least one more pilot/client for 2nd static backup and surveilence. That will count as MINUS.
2. Scanning. Every time I log in I have 3 ways to start the EvE(ning) - scan myself / check the corpbooks if scan was done by corpies / set scouts near activated holes and go for some bloot. With new approach for more random wh's and 2nd c4 static the scan time will go from half an hour to an hour AT LEAST. I mean real wh scan, bookmarking ALL the sigs, doing 200km spots near active posses, wormholes, checking Z-kb / wormhol.es etc. That will count as MINUS.
3. Iskies VoV. Okay average isk/hr is 250 and 200 for c4 and c3 farming respectively. Our corp was always hitting about 200 and 150 beacause of chat/afks/etc. Thats the time we can spend while noone will disturb us, no statics activated, no k162 active. Now lets turn on the devblog approach. The probability that there are no k162 in our home c4 becomes twice less at least (more dynamic wh's, more guests from c4-4-X and from their k162's). Some guests will activate our statics willing to find some pew or logistic routes. So we'll have to collapse not one but two holes. Again, less and less time for pewing sleeper drones. That counts as MINUS. As long as you dont plan to raise sleeper rewards in C4 it will become even more deserted and uninhabited than now.
4. PvP. Plainly more wh's - more chances to find pew. We're doing the subcap fights so eject distance after wh jump will not effect us that much, That counts as an obvious juicy PLUS.
5. "K162 appearance only on first jump" thing. This is not strictly the start post subject though it IS connected with the 2nd static, isnt it? We were dropped 5 times while shooting sleepers. I personally dropped bears 50+ times and from my perspective the "check anomaly" feature didnt help anyone who was half asleep while carebearing. Neither will combat probes if the carebear is half asleep and hit probes scan and d-scan buttons once every 3-4 minutes. That counts as USELESS.
The little summary of the upcoming wh devblog for my c4-3 corp: More minuses and one plus. More routing scanning. More scanning windows/live pilots. Same profits (or lower according to more time spent for routine scanning). More chances to get wormhole pvp (lets not decide if it is good or not).
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Pashko Morgan
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Posted - 2014.08.07 17:54:00 -
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Kireitsugu Secheh wrote:In this thread, farmers gonna whine, pvpers gonna shine. Small corps gonna tremble. Scanners gonna scout moar so Everyone Struggles.
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Pashko Morgan
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Posted - 2014.08.12 11:09:00 -
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Ya Huei wrote:Do you C4 neckbeards also complain this much when you get killed because OMG we're going to have a good time once we get settled in.
Last time I complained that much when a vargur didn't meet our killboard due to "socket was closed" for the wh system where we managed to catch him. Again, my corpies and me can find insta frig pvp with my fw friends, can run twice more isk/hr in safe lolsec within lvl5 agents or lvl4 npc null agents.With absolutely no scanning/logistic issues/other wh routine. All devblog changes forces small corps to blob or leave w-space thanks to increasing amounts of routine. And yeah, it'd be awesome to see a frig blob engaging a 100mn bonused t3 carebear fleet in c3/c4. Meh |
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Posted - 2014.08.12 12:08:00 -
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Pavel Sohaj wrote: Wanna merge to appease nullbears? :D
That would be too sweet for both of us. Anyway pi and pos'es for booster production still remain in wh so it's too early to unsub and ragequit. |
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Posted - 2014.08.13 14:18:00 -
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2 Kusum Fawn. You forgot 100mn propulsion mods which add mass. Remake your math. The numbers will be a bit less dissapointing.
Most of c4 residents are not care bears (4-4 are ones for sure but meh). Small corps of lazy friends, some wh newcomers etc. I doubt they are living c4 to make isk. If you want c4 to be alive and kicking then you need to give c4 dwellers a unique resource so desired to be faught for. Ice / moon goo / advanced ABC on probed gravimetrics / sleeper officer spawn / whatever. I know you have enough weed to figure it up and give us a carrot to run for
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Posted - 2014.08.13 14:28:00 -
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That won't work in long term - 320 and 540 prices fell down drastically during last year. C320 and 540 mining niche should be saved for new members of big wh corps while big boys having fun doing cap escalations. Imo* |
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Posted - 2014.08.13 16:27:00 -
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The content you are asking for is called "fronteir barracks in 100mn ham tengu" Pros: - 100km+ spawn distances are not an issue (2k + km/s) - Nice payout with 30 mins/barrack (600 dps with faction / 700 rage) - Can be speedtanked (Personally can complete a barrack in active 100mn tengu without even touching shield booster) - Safe as hi-sec l4 (guests need at least a 2 rapiers to catch you) Cons: Barracks is an anom. you requested something other than anom. |
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Posted - 2014.08.15 12:55:00 -
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Okay, downloading sisi client to look our new static...oh wait that doesn't really matter c1 - afk miners and sleepy pi barons. Sabre time c2 - t3 and guardian miniblobs. Ishtar time c3 - k162 space. Covert cloaky trap time c4 - barracks and rr bs farming. Yummy. Gheddon / legion time c5 - cake gas, intact yummy stuff from easily blitzable relics, t3 and guardian macroblobs. Ishtar time still c6 - not that much difference from c5. Gas and blobs
I really doubt that c5/6 dwellers will seriously go for your kiting ship until they are really really bored. Summing it up - any new static is ok, the game play pattern for pvp stays the same for our corp, though sometimes it will be even more convenient - no need to bring wf links through extra system.
On the other side...we don't need much isk - got a hell load of pvp ships stored. The newer capsuleers who's wallet struggles losing a 400m ship should stay away from c4. And that's not good. |
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Posted - 2014.08.19 09:41:00 -
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"There have been three times in the past 5 years people have jumped in to a wormhole while I was doing sleeper sites" My numbers are about 5 attempts to catch a care bearing pilot, 10 attempts to catch an orca/pi indie/static rolling bs per month. Being dropped about 3 times per month. And that's a silent c4 with c3 static. |
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